OK, I'm not going to do this all at once, but here's a start:
LEONARD COHEN
Probably influenced my lyric-writing more than any other person. I wouldn't go so far as to say that I write like him, but studying his approach to writing lyrics and poetry helped shape the way that I write. Leonard Cohen has a real gift for telling you just enough about a person or a scene to create a picture in your mind, while still leaving enough to your imagination that you can truly make the scene your own. If I had to pick my favorite work of his, I'd say it's "Famous Blue Raincoat" - it's written as a letter to a forgotten friend and rival. Check out these excerpts:It's four in the morning
Just amazing.
the end of December;
I'm writing you now just
to see if you're better;
New York is cold but I
like where I'm living;
There's music on Clinton Street
all through the evening;
The last time I saw you
you looked so much older;
Your famous blue raincoat
was torn at the shoulder;
You'd been to the station
to meet every train;
But you came home alone
without Lilly Marlaine;
You treated my woman
to a flake of your life;
And when she came back
she was nobody's wife;
What can I tell you
my brother, my killer;
What can I possibly say?
I guess that I miss you
I guess I forgive you;
I'm glad that you stood in my way;
If you ever come by here
for Jane or for me;
Your enemy is sleeping
and his woman is free;
Thanks for the trouble you
took from her eyes;
I thought it was there for good
so I never tried;
I see you there with a rose in your teeth;
One more thin gypsy thief;
I see Jane's awake
she sends her regards
and he ends it:
Sincerely, L. Cohen
I don't know exactly what it is about that song that hits me so hard. It's a beautiful melody too, although Leonard doesn't have the sweetest voice in the world (look up Tori Amos' cover - it's worth it). I always go back to this song when I'm struggling with a lyric, and I ask myself "How can I say more with this line? How can I use one line to convey a feeling; a whole scene?" WWLCD? When I was writing the lyrics for The Barfly, I was trying to write a story without giving away all the pieces, and I was always thinking about the way the lyrics for Famous Blue Raincoat made me feel - and how personal an experience that song was. I attribute that connection to the fact that Cohen didn't TELL you the story, he SHOWED it to you. Just enough to pull you in. That was necessary when writing The Barfly, because the song was just TOO LONG and I had to cut, cut, cut. (Originally there were three more verses. Seriously.) I had to look at the story and decide which parts were superfluous, and what I could get rid of without losing the meaning of the song.
Incidentally, any time you read a lyric of mine and just can't for the life of you figure out what the hell I'm talking about, it's possibly an example of where I tried to do this and failed. There's a fine line between telling so much that there's no mystery, no imagination - and telling so little that there's no thread to grasp. Some lines in my songs are, like, the third lateral jump from the original metaphor, and then I cut the original metaphor out, and it's suddenly a lot harder to piece it together. So.... sorry about that. Work in progress. I also tend to finish lyrics about 30 seconds before I enter the booth to record them, so that doesn't help.
Other songs that really connect with me lyrically:
- Last Goodbye, by Jeff Buckley
- Stumbeline, by the Smashing Pumpkins
- Piano Man, by Billy Joel
- Subterranean Homesick Alien, by Radiohead
- Eleanor Rigby, by The Beatles
- John Wayne Gacy Jr., by Sufjan Stevens (and pretty much everything else, too)
- Hallelujah, by Leonard Cohen
- Suzanne, by Leonard Cohen
- The Partisan, by Leonard Cohen (see a pattern?)
- Mr. Bojangles, by Jerry Jeff Walker

16 comments:
That really was a beautiful poem/song. Honestly I like it more as a poem but that's just me. As for the three versus that were cut would you ever share them or is that something you wouldn't want to do to give to much away?
It's strange how Hallelujah keeps popping up. Maybe it's something with song writers..... :) <- Just saying I know of another song writer where that song had an impact on his life.
So does the whole "...the third lateral jump from the original metaphor, and then I cut the original metaphor out..." hold true for Icarus? For me, I can sense there is greatness in the lyrics; and I can make educated guesses about what the hell you were talking about, but as for connecting it all to be about one story... I don't see it. But then again I think you said once that it was not just about *one* topic, but a few different topics. Or maybe I just made that up. Basically, I'm just fishing for you to explain yourself on that song, sir.
I doubt the extra verses to Barfly will ever see the light of day - I think cutting them was the right thing to do. Interesting fact - did you know that Another Round had another half-verse too? We even recorded it for the album, and the pre-mastered copy I've got still has the extra half-verse intact.
As for Icarus - I don't know if I'd really say there's a "story" that ties the whole song together, more a collection of themes. Someday I'll have a "decipher Icarus" contest and see what people come up with - I bet it'd be pretty funny. If you like the lyrics to Icarus, look up a French poet named Artur Rimbaud - another big influence on me, again more in approach than in actual style. "A Season in Hell" is my favorite of his, but he's best known for the long poem "The Drunken Boat". Check it out!
I really like that you have someone that influences your lyrics. It's really cool and You write some great stuff. The poem is really great to that he wrote. No wonder you like his stuff.
Thank you for sharing your influences with us. I am not sure if too many people outside of my family have truly influenced me but you have given me food for thought.
ETH is amazing because of the original songs but I also like the way you can take an old celtic classic and make it your own.
Please keep writing. You are so incredibly talented. I know I will keep listening as long as you keep writing.
Thanks.
Have never listened to/read Leonard Cohen, but you've piqued my interest. And just from your explanation of his influence, and the poem that you shared, you've given a clear picture of how much he's influenced your writing. And I agree that Barfly is a perfect example of "saying just enough". Every time I listen to Barfly - every time it just runs through my head - it brings tears to my eyes. The song touches me in a way I can't explain. I can't fathom there being more to the song - it's perfect the way it is. You played it live during one of your Northampton shows (I think it was in November '06), and played Gasoline afterwards, but I couldn't get Barfly out of my head for the rest of the night, and couldn't stop the tears. It's a very powerful song.
Your lyrics have a way of making a point without beating that point over people's heads, and that's one of the many things about your music that appeals to me so much.
So when's this "decipher Icarus" contest going to be?!
Those were beautiful lyrics. I am about to go and look for the song on itunes just so I can hear what a clip of it sounds like. I can see where you get your inspiration. By the way, "The Barfly" is one of my all time favorite songs. It's very beautiful, and I almost cried the first time I heard it.
I always love your lyrics. Thanks for the influences explanation, I'll have to follow the rest of it. I'm not much of a creative writer myself, so I hope this helps me.
I love Mr. Bojangles and Eleanor Rigby!!!!
But with Piano Man we'll just have toagree to disagree about it.
BTW I shall be at your Madison concert on 11/14!!!!
YAY!!!
I live in a super-rich, spoil-your-kids-rotten-and-never-actually-get-to-know-them kind of place, so not many people here are interested in what we "cool" folks call "good music". But every time I play one of your CDs in the car with friends, a couple of days later I hear them humming your tunes. Bravo, brava
When are you guys gonna be back in Antioch, CA? Or maybe the Canmore Hotel in Alberta? JK! That is one rowdy hotel.
"Thanks for the trouble you
took from her eyes;
I thought it was there for good
so I never tried;"
Amazing. I admit that when I listen to a song, the melody is what first draws me in. But the truly great songs bowl me over with their lyrics as well. Thank you for sharing.
I've loved Leonard Cohen's work since I first saw the movie McCabe and Mrs. Miller years and years ago. The music was haunting, mesmerizing, and it transported me. What a wonderful surprise to see that he's influenced your work!
I love that you are sharing this stuff. I'm always curious to know more about the stories behind the songs, or the method behind the (I mean this in a good way) madness. :)
i am moved by alot of lyrics in famous blue raincoat like "if you ever come by here for jane or for me your enemy is sleeping and his lover is free"
i'm also an avid listener to 'take this waltz'. he was a really great songwriter, completely eclectic writing that just seems to flow.
(okay, i'm done.)
I wish I could see the other verses of The Barfly. That's an absolutely beautiful song.
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